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On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:29 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@hidden.email> wrote: > > The example is analogous to "Napoleon was married to > Josephine and wasn't married to Josephine". There's one reading in which > that is a contradiction and therefore false, the reading in which "Napoleon > wasn't married to Josephine" means "It isn't the case that Napoleon was > married to Josephine". There's another reading in which it's true, where > "Napoleon wasn't married to Josephine" means something like "Napoleon was in > a state of not being married to J", which is not equivalent to "It's not the > case that Napoleon was in a state of being married to J". Xorban na has been > defined as the former sort, the one where "la bcda na fgha" is equivalent to > "na la bcda fgha". I think the two readings are not related to where the "na" is respect to Napoleon, but rather where you put the tense: "It is not the case that [at some point in time] Napoleon was married to Josephine." vs. "[At some point in time] it was not the case that Napoleon was married to Josephine." which is equivalent to: "It is not the case that [at every point in time] Napoleon was married to Josephine." You can move Napoleon in and out of the negation or the quantifiers, it doesn't matter. co ma'a xrxe