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Re: [engelang] Xorban: Semantics of "l-" (and "s-" and "r-")



On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Martin Bays <mbays@hidden.email> wrote:
> * Tuesday, 2012-09-11 at 11:15 +0100 - And Rosta <and.rosta@hidden.email>:
>>
>> The current situation is the one the truth-conditions of the l-
>> formula is evaluated against. I think distinguishing situations from
>> UoD is a helpful move.
>
> Maybe. But in situational semantics (disclaimer: I don't actually know
> anything about situational semantics), claims are still meant to be
> evaluated against whole worlds.

I don't know anything about it either, but the second sentence from
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/situations-semantics/
says pretty much the opposite:

"In situation semantics, linguistic expressions are evaluated with
respect to partial, rather than complete, worlds."


>  In what sense is that equivalence to be read? If we
> interpret both sentences within the same situation, and that situation
> satisfies the presupposition, then of course they get the same truth
> value. Is that all that's meant?

Yes, that's about it.

> Or do you mean something stronger, that
> when speaking I can substitute one for the other and expect to convey
> the same information? I don't see how to get the latter.

How is it stronger? When speaking, I am describing some situation, and
therefore I can substitute one for the other and expect to convey the
same information.

ma'a xrxe