[YG Conlang Archives] > [engelang group] > messages [Date Index] [Thread Index] >


[Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next]

Re: [engelang] Xorban Development: Questions



Jorge Llamb�as, On 01/09/2012 15:34:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Jorge Llamb�as<jjllambias@hidden.email>  wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, And Rosta<and.rosta@hidden.email>  wrote:

"I wonder who you reckon loves who"
-- I think this shows that the wonderee argument is binder of two makau
variables. So we need a new C -- h, say -- that binds one or more variables
("h-i-k-a-k-u"?)m the variables interpreted as makaus. And then "bcdu'u" can
be considered an abbreviation of "ha bcda".

OK, that's good, so your sentence could be:

la heki fa lo fo prmeki jnve'eko kcla'aka
the (who-E, who-I) of the state of affairs in which (that E loves I
you reckon), I wonder.

Or perhaps more clearly:

la kcla'aka heki fa lo jnve'eko fo prmeki
"My wonder is the (who-E, who-I) of your opinion that E loves I"

Since all our other binders are binary, I propose to make this one a
binary too, say x-, (so xV = hV je, and hV = xV smV).

"hake" is equivalent to "ha he", isn't it?

I think so, tho I see this stuff through frosted glass.

And "xake" is "xa sma xe".

"xa nlca'aka sma"/"xa sma nlca'aka"
"I like what I like", "Whatever it is that I like, I like it"

I withdraw my earlier suggestion about fakiku.

We can also turn them into expressive performatives, "I hereby express
that what I wonder about is as to..."

ca lo fo la kcla'aka fa xe tcke li kncrti cfrike jrca'ako
Hereby, that what I wonder about is as to what time the concert starts
at, I express.

Or reversing:

ca lo jrca'ako fo la kcla'aka fa xe tcke li kncrti cfrike
Hereby what I express is that what I wonder about is as to what time
the concert starts at.

I was going to ask why you weren't using "I hereby enquire", but that's obviated by this:
And "ca lo jrca'ako fo la kcla'aka fa" is something we want to assign
to a cV illocutionary, say "ca'u":

ca'u xe tcke li kncrti cfrike
At what time does the concert start?

Good.

And this?:
"ca'u xi smi la xtntcsaki fa su smu crvu"
To what extent is it the case that it's raining? Is it raining?

--And.