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On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@hidden.email> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@hidden.email> wrote:
>>
>> "I wonder who you reckon loves who"
>> -- I think this shows that the wonderee argument is binder of two makau
>> variables. So we need a new C -- h, say -- that binds one or more variables
>> ("h-i-k-a-k-u"?)m the variables interpreted as makaus. And then "bcdu'u" can
>> be considered an abbreviation of "ha bcda".
>
> OK, that's good, so your sentence could be:
>
> la heki fa lo fo prmeki jnve'eko kcla'aka
> the (who-E, who-I) of the state of affairs in which (that E loves I
> you reckon), I wonder.
>
> Or perhaps more clearly:
>
> la kcla'aka heki fa lo jnve'eko fo prmeki
> "My wonder is the (who-E, who-I) of your opinion that E loves I"
Since all our other binders are binary, I propose to make this one a
binary too, say x-, (so xV = hV je, and hV = xV smV).
"hake" is equivalent to "ha he", isn't it? And "xake" is "xa sma xe".
So we have:
la fa xe prne klme kcla'aka
Who goes, I wonder.
la fa xe stze li ckti zvtike kcla'aka
Where the book is at, I wonder.
la fa xe tcke li kncrti cfrike kcla'aka
What time the concert starts at, I wonder.
These could also be reversed:
la kcla'aka fa xe prne klme
What I wonder about is as to who goes.
la kcla'aka fa xe stze li ckti zvtike
What I wonder about is as to where the book is at.
la kcla'aka fa xe tcke li kncrti cfrike
What I wonder about is as to what time the concert starts at.
We can also turn them into expressive performatives, "I hereby express
that what I wonder about is as to..."
ca lo fo la kcla'aka fa xe tcke li kncrti cfrike jrca'ako
Hereby, that what I wonder about is as to what time the concert starts
at, I express.
Or reversing:
ca lo jrca'ako fo la kcla'aka fa xe tcke li kncrti cfrike
Hereby what I express is that what I wonder about is as to what time
the concert starts at.
And "ca lo jrca'ako fo la kcla'aka fa" is something we want to assign
to a cV illocutionary, say "ca'u":
ca'u xe tcke li kncrti cfrike
At what time does the concert start?
mu'o mi'e xorxes