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Points well taken. Thanks for the input. My search has made it all the way to Irish, where cold is "fuar", giving us a nice "frau" for hot, which avoids the liquid plus semivowel problem. -- Rex F. May (Baloo) Visit my website at: http://homepage.mac.com/rmay/ Great leadership training for boys at: http://afewgoodkids.com Strange language from an alternate universe at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Texperanto.html