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--- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, "Rex May" <rmay@m...> wrote:
> --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, "HandyDad" <lsulky@r...> wrote:
> > --- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...>
>
--SNIP--
>
> Very glad to hear it! Now, the only remaining question about
> connectives is, do we like the "xe" bound particle, or can we just
go
> ahead with "bu" compounds?
>
> noa xeva > buva
> anoi vaxe > vabu
> onoi fixe > fibu
>
> Since we've made these nice and terse, somehow the "bu" form seems
> more okay. Somehow.
Agree.
>
> BTW, I just found a nice website that can help us out here:
> http://www.loglan.org/Sanpa/crib-notes.html
>
> I'm not going to copy it here, but we can look at it and prepare
our
> own truth table.
>
> And, we need a version of ce, ca, co, cu noca, for connecting
> _within_ predicates, as the Loglanists put it.
> Since it's a small-
> scope connective, so to speak, it can take the forms:
> pikay, piva, pifi, piseya, bupiva, pivabu, pifibu.
> Rare usages, I expect, except for pikay.
If we follow the Loglan model of each predicate modifying the next,
then we do need something like this, and the "pi-" series is a nice
way to do it. However, in my experience, multiple adjectives in
natural languages usually apply individually to the noun: 'wild green
cockatoo' means a cockatoo that is wild and green, not wildly green.
This suggests that if we follow the Loglan model, then the intra-
predicate connector will be present more often than not, so it should
be very short. If we follow the English-language approach, then we
need a mechanism for _joining_ the modifiers that otherwise would
each individually modify the noun.
Following the Loglan model has one big advantage: it's been pretty
thoroughly thought out. So I suggest that the "pi-" series stand, but
that we have a much shorter synonym for "pikay", which, as you note,
is likely to be frequent used.
>
> Intersentence connectives will of course be:
>
> hakay hava hafi haseya
>
Again, "hakay" will potentially be frequently used. How about a short
synonym for it as well?
> And I think we want to encourage the use of "ha" while not
requiring
> it. Now, can we say that compounds of "ha" with morphemes other
than
> connectives can express things like 'then' ("hafu"?)