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> I think those are redundant, when i and u can make those sounds. And I > think I agree with Rex in that I prefer i and u over y and w. I don't think they are redundant, because there's a clearly audible different between a full vowel and its glide. Would then a word like "pauio" supposed to be pronounced as [pa.wi.o] or as [paw.jo]? > > And regarding the voicing of "h", that's not the > > only consonant not to have a pair: none of the weaks > > has it either. So, just make "h" be one of them. > > When I wrote 'consonants' I meant the non-weaks. But if H was not to be > schwa, it being a weak would be ok by me. Not that the consonants must be > in pairs---that just happens to be the case and I used it to isolate h. But you can consider the h to be a "weak" consonant instead of a fricative "strong" consonant. There are languages in which they use a kind of h as kind of vowel. And in Lojban it is considered the "weakest" of all consonants, that which is less "obstrusive". > Just to summarize, our systems differ in > -letters for /tS/ and /dZ/ or not > -use of h > -y/w vs. i/u > (-ny- sound or not) Yes, but in your system, letter <w> is idiosyncratically used for "zh" and <y> for "ny", unlike in any other alphabet around the world. The use of "h" for the schwa is a bit more justifiable, since I've already mentioned that an "h" is sometimes considered a vowel; but why turning the vowel letter <y> into a consonant and the consonant letter <h> into a vowel? If one uses a sixth vowel, then why not just using for it the sixth vowel letter of the roman alphabet? Cheers, Javier