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I'm kidding around with the thought of adding considerably more sounds to Ceqli by using the Spanish alphabet. Give me your reactions on this: Ten vowels: a as in fAt á as in fAther (accented vowels can also be represented as double vowels in ASCII "aa" in this case) e as in bUg é as in bEd i as in bIt í as in bEEt o as in bOUGHt ó as in bOAt u as in fOOt ú as in fOOd When adjacent to another vowel, "i" makes the Y sound /j/, and "u" makes the W sound /w/. Consonants: b as in Boy c as in SHoe (sorry!) d as in Dog f as in Free g as in Go h as in Hat j as in Joe k as in King p as in Pig q as in CHew s as in See t as in Too v as in Victory w as in THin x as in meaSure y as in THen z as in Zoo Weaks: l as in Love m as in My n as in No ñ as in haNG (may also be represented as "nn") r as in Rose That brings it up to 32 sounds, 34 if you count the semivowel values of 'i' and 'u'. And it seems to me that, interestingly, it's adequate to transcribe any and all English words, tho I know English is officially supposed to have 43 phonemes, right? Now, in this system, we could have structure words limited to P(V/D), that is, a plosive (including affricates Q and J) followed by a vowel or a diphthong. That would be 8 plosives times ten vowels = 80. and the 4 usual diphthongs, aai, eei, oi, and aau times 8 = 32, and the entering diphthongs ia, iaa, ie, iee, etc, and ua, uaa, ue, uee, etc. for a possible total of 8 x 20 or 160, making 272 structure words possible. Plenty, right? Who knows how many Loglan and Lojban have at the moment? -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/