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Ray Bergman wrote: [...] However I can't see why they dont combine both systems as (sa syi su se so sya syu syo/ ta tyi tu te to tya tyu tyo/ da dyi du de do dya dyu dyo). [...] The system is designed to approximate the way the syllables are spelled using kana. Note that all the syllables that are spelled with <-y-> are written using two kana (and nowadays, the second kana is written smaller than the first, and slightly below or off to one side, depending on the direction of writing). kana 1 kana 2 romanization si /Si/ ya /ya/ sya /Sa/ si /Si/ yu /yu/ tyu /Su/ si /Si/ yo /yo/ tyo /So/ ti /tSi/ ya /ya/ tya /tSa/ ti /tSi/ yu /yu/ tyu /tSu/ ti /tSi/ yo /yo/ tyo /tSo/ di /dZi/ ya /ya/ dya /dZa/ di /dZi/ yu /yu/ dyu /dZu/ di /dZi/ yo /yo/ dyo /dZo/ In a couple of cases, there are spelling differences for homonyms: zi /dZi/ ya /ya/ zya /dZa/ zi /dZi/ yu /yu/ zyu /dZu/ zi /dZi/ yo /yo/ zyo /dZo/ du /zu/ zu /zu/ This is a good example of the kind of historical baggage that a conlang won't have. -- Mike Wright http://www.CoastalFog.net _______________________________________________________ In my experience, mental health is a lot like sex-- sometimes you just have to fake it. -- Dee Dee Starr