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Re: [westasianconlangs] Re: Introduction to Hunanika



kataba eamoniski:


| --- In westasianconlangs@yahoogroups.com, "Isaac Penzev" <isaacp@...>
| wrote:
|
| > Bad idea.
| > 1) why to retain Greek ending -os?
|
| 2 reasons: the Central Cappadocian Greek does it (agglutinating the
| case and plural markers directly to the -os ending;

Ah, that's interesting.

| and Armenian does
| it in words of Greek origin which have the -os ending [the genitive of
| ovkianos "ocean" would be ovkianosi]).

I see. It may be good for an occasional borrowing, but how well will it work
in a mostly Greek lang?

| I think in some Armenian words with origin in Greek masculine nouns in
| -os, they drop the -os entirely (kiwr from kyrios),

My dictionary lacks the word "kiwr". The word for "lord" is _tér_ (with
regular change é > i in oblique forms: _tiroj_ etc.)

| > 2) in Armenian, case endings follow the plural suffix: banvor 'worker' -
| > banvori 'worker (G.)' - banvorner 'workers' - banvorneri 'workers (G.)'
|
| You're absolutely right, my bad.  I'd have to check my notes, but I
| believe the Cappadocian Greek adds the plural to the case suffix.  A
| revised version of my original scheme (using Armenian ovkianos) would
| then be:
|
| Direct: ovkianos     ovkianosner
| Oblique ovkianosyu   ovkianosneryu

Well, that is better, imo. Don't forget there are other types of declension
in Armenian, as you could see on tér : tiroj example. Most words in -i
get -u in G. (aygi - aygu 'garden'), old -n stems get -an (muk - mkan
'mouse') etc. Notice regular change u > @ in the latter.

Another example of regular vowel alteration: i > @ (gir 'writing' > grel 'to
write'), uy (iw) > u (huyn 'Greek' - hunakan 'adj.').
The word _huyn_ seems related to Arabic _Yuna:n_ (Old Arm. _y_ often gives
_h_ in Mod.Arm.: Hisus, Hovhannes) which in its turn comes from _Yawn_
"Greece' from probably _Io:n(ia)_. What about using adj. suff. -kan, and
calling the lang *Yeghinakan (old "l" > "gh": Ghukas, Poghos).

| Thanks for the input,
| Eamon

You are welcome,
-- Yitzik