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On Mar 29, 2005, at 3:34 AM, habarakhe4 wrote:
I am trying to fit Latin roots (mostly past participles) into a Hebrew consonant pattern. Thus racat [raxaT] 'he ruled' tircat [tirkaT] 'she will rule' recet [rexeT] king[rextim] kings, ractut [raxtuT] or marcatha [markaTa] 'kingdom'
Cool, looks like a lot of fun :) !The "kings" form isn't exactly parallel, though - then it would be [r@xaTim]. And [raxTej] for "kings of"; in Hebrew, 'segolate' nouns like _melekh_ (king) or _beghedh_ (garment) always retain soft allophones of their last two root letters, even in post-closed-syllable position:
[malxej], [biGDej], [malxuT] (hence [raxTuT] for |ractut| above).
I have decided that the problem with the beged kefet is one of orthography. The spirantized forms of [p] [b] [t_d] [d_d] [k] [g] are [F] [B] [T] [D] [x] [G], all of which are distinct from the independent Latin phonemes [f] [w] [s] [z] [h/0] [j]. Thespirantized forms are not marked orthographically. Changes: [F] shifts to [f] as [f] shifts to [w_0] [B] shifts to [v] as [w] remains [w] [x] shifts to [h] as [h/0] shifts to enunciatory oblivion.
Cool! I like using cedillas to mark soft allophones of beged-kefet letters.
For my semi-Semiticized Romanceconlang, i had:
[p]~[P]
[b]~[B]
[t]~[s] (or maybe [T]?)
[d]~[z] (or maybe [D]?)
[k]~[x]
[g]~[G]
Distinct from the native Latin phonemes:
[v],[f] < /w/
[S] < /s/
/h/
-Stephen (Steg)
"Dime ladino d'ande venes
ke te kero konoser
Dime si futuro tenes
Yo te vo a defender."
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