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On 13.6.2007 funkymonkey1148 wrote: > The problem is that I'd still like to have gendered 3rd > person pronouns to distinguish male/female beings. So > far, using ILLE or IPSE produces too similar pronouns. > Perhaps I could use IS, but then the feminine accusative > singular comes out equal to the nominative. > > Any other suggestions? This is a very interesting idea, and very similar to one I once had, though I started from Greek and stopped at Old English -- because for some reason Greek written in Latin script and OE appear visually similar to me. (NB I have read the other responses, and mine are in the light of them.) After some mulling I came to a suggestion based on these four assumptions: - it is likely that an Englishy romlang preserves a nominative/oblique distinction in pronouns, - it is *not* likely that there is an accustaive/dative (or direct/indirect object) distinction, - the single oblique must not be derived from the accusative -- even in English 'him' and 'her' are from the dative. (The Scandinavian languages do likewise, what about Dutch?), - we know that Vulgar Latin ILLE and IPSE could be stressed on the ending, so you get, with some known VL levellings and analogies : Masc. Fem. Neut. : Nom. IPSE is IPSA se ILLU il : Obl. IPS(U)I sy IPSAEI say ILLU il : Poss. IPSIUS sus/sis IPSAE say ILLIUS lus/lis/ils I hope this helps. (There may be a problem with 'himself' etc., but I guess 'self' may be _mesm_ from METIPSIM- , so _symesm, saymesm, ilmesm_.) BTW I agree with the others that case and gender both should disappear in an Anglo-Romlang. /BP