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--- Isaac Penzev <isaacp@hidden.email> wrote: > > > I take it they mix a kind of doughy bread > > > (perhaps almost a flatbread) with wine? In > the > > > Eastern church, it's sort of spooned out. > > > > Ewww! You're kidding, right? No I guess > > not. Oh, I'm gonna be ill. > > Padraic is not kidding. In ROC they indeed mix > leavened bread with diluted wine... It's not so bad as to make one ill...it's actually quite good! It's just moist, not soggy. The wine used is diluted and so not enough to gag one. And it is indeed delivered to the tongue via a kind of spoon. It is v�ry bad form to close the mouth on the spoon. Contrast with the RCC, which generally uses pressed chips. They're very dry and crispy. I'm not sure what Protestant churches use. > > > > I still haven't decided on > > > > the orientation of altars, etc. > > > > > > The earliest churches are usually oriented > to the > > > east; the priest faces east too. Quite > unlike > > > modern usage! > > > > I'm pretty sure this will be true in Donatist > > churhces. Not sure about the direction the > > priest will face. > > That may seem practise from synagogue times. > The chazan/cantor (the person > who leads public prayer) faces the same > direction the praying people do. The present practice of the RCC priests of facing the congregation is new (last half century). It's receiving a lot of criticism because priests too often become MCs or performers (and I think there might be a hint of "too Protestant" in there as well) rather than fellow worshippers. There is also a cantor in the Eastern churches I've been to, who like the chazan is the one who leads the congregation in singing. Padraic. > -- Yitzik Almighty and Eternal God, help us to realise that we are no longer the young and the restless; but help us all remember that we have one life to live; let us remain always close to you, walking not in Ryan's hope, but in Christian hope, for our destination is Heaven, not J.R.'s Dallas. May mothers and fathers of our community always pray to You "Bless and protect all my children." Like sands in the hour glass, so these are the days of our lives; and so, as the world turns, and as some of us have to visit the Doctors and the general hospital, may we always keep You dear, God, as the Guiding Light. Then, we won't be concerned with a foolish search for tomorrow, walking on the edge of night. For together, dear Lord, we will be able to create and build another world. Amen. Rev. Carl A. Fisher, SSJ -- Ill Bethisad -- <http://www.geocities.com/elemtilas/ill_bethisad> Come visit The World! -- <http://www.geocities.com/hawessos/> .