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--- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, Padraic Brown <elemtilas@y...> wrote: > > --- Isaac Penzev <isaacp@u...> wrote: > > > > > I take it they mix a kind of doughy bread > > > > (perhaps almost a flatbread) with wine? In > > the > > > > Eastern church, it's sort of spooned out. > > > > > > Ewww! You're kidding, right? No I guess > > > not. Oh, I'm gonna be ill. > > > > Padraic is not kidding. In ROC they indeed mix > > leavened bread with diluted wine... > > It's not so bad as to make one ill...it's > actually quite good! It's just moist, not soggy. > The wine used is diluted and so not enough to gag > one. And it is indeed delivered to the tongue via > a kind of spoon. It is vèry bad form to close the > mouth on the spoon. > > Contrast with the RCC, which generally uses > pressed chips. They're very dry and crispy. I'm > not sure what Protestant churches use. Some use RCC-like wafers; others use an actual loaf of bread from which individual peaces are torn. As for wine (those that do use wine), some use a cup, but Christ the King Lutheran in Tahoe City uses a spinning device with individual 'cups' of wine. > > > > > > I still haven't decided on > > > > > the orientation of altars, etc. > > > > > > > > The earliest churches are usually oriented > > to the > > > > east; the priest faces east too. Quite > > unlike > > > > modern usage! > > > > > > I'm pretty sure this will be true in Donatist > > > churhces. Not sure about the direction the > > > priest will face. > > > > That may seem practise from synagogue times. > > The chazan/cantor (the person > > who leads public prayer) faces the same > > direction the praying people do. > > The present practice of the RCC priests of facing > the congregation is new (last half century). It's > receiving a lot of criticism because priests too > often become MCs or performers (and I think there > might be a hint of "too Protestant" in there as > well) rather than fellow worshippers. > > There is also a cantor in the Eastern churches > I've been to, who like the chazan is the one who > leads the congregation in singing. > > Padraic. > > > -- Yitzik > > > > Almighty and Eternal God, > help us to realise that we are no longer the young and the restless; > but help us all remember that we have one life to live; > let us remain always close to you, walking not in Ryan's hope, > but in Christian hope, for our destination is Heaven, not J.R.'s Dallas. > May mothers and fathers of our community always pray to You "Bless > and protect all my children." > Like sands in the hour glass, so these are the days of our lives; > and so, as the world turns, and as some of us have to visit the Doctors > and the general hospital, may we always keep You dear, God, > as the Guiding Light. > Then, we won't be concerned with a foolish search for tomorrow, > walking on the edge of night. For together, dear Lord, > we will be able to create and build another world. Amen. > Rev. Carl A. Fisher, SSJ > > -- > > Ill Bethisad -- > <http://www.geocities.com/elemtilas/ill_bethisad> > > > Come visit The World! -- > <http://www.geocities.com/hawessos/> > > > > > > > > . >