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--- habarakhe4 <theophilus88@hidden.email> wrote: > The last reference to the the "rebaptizati" (but > only in Africa) is in AD 768. Female priests > and prophetesses were common features of > non-Catholic branches of Roman Christianity > (and charismatic movements more generally, if Mary > Eddy Baker and Emma Hale Smith are > any indication) > Where is that reference found? I'm still slowly tracking down references. What are you classifying as Non-Catholic Roman Christianity? I don't want to get into a doctrinal debate here, but just FYI no Charismatic that I've ever known would claim Mary Baker Eddy, and I'm not sure who Emma Hale Smith even is. However, the chiurches I've grown up in all ordain women and I've heard some fantastic messages preached by women over the years. Mary Baker Eddy indeed! > The Berber Jew who led a revolt against the earliest > Muslims was Kohena (the Priestess). > Yes, the position of women in Berber society seems to have been quite free compared to other Mediterranian societies of the day. > The original Donatists were obsessed with the purity > of the apostolic succession, so I find > this group approach to the consecration hard to > credit. On the other hand, African > tradition at the time of the traditores rquired > twelve bishops for a valid ordination, so I > suppose a tradition of group consecration could > develop. > I don't find a conflict, but perhaps it could be an issue of some controversy in the early days of the Church of the Faithful even requiring a church council to resolve the question. And what I was suggesting wasn't a group consecration, but a consecration by the head of the household. I think you've gotton confused by the intermingled way the conversation grew between Padraic and me. Some of my comments were about my Donatists and some were about my real-world *here* religious background. The "group consecration", if I understand what you mean by that, happens *here* in the churches I've grown up in, not in Donatist churches *there*. Adam Jin nifalud fistus todus idavi eseud adimpuudu ul isu fi aved niminchunadu pera ul Dju peu'l medju djul provedu cumvi dichid: �I�i! Cunchepijid ed nadajid il virdjini ad junu huiju, ed cuamajuns ad si il Emanueli fi s�ivigad ul Dju simu noviscu.� Machu 1:22-23