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Hello! A while ago, we discussed the possibility of making a family tree of the Romance languages. Well, here is an effort. It's based on lot's of info I have compiled over the years. Yet, it is far from complete. Some significant languages may have been omitted, while other languages listed may have consisted of an idea, a short description, or a sentence only. At some point, I may add it to the website too. Anyway, see for yourself. Natlangs are capitalised: EUROPEAN SUBSTRATE LANGUAGES: * Ibero-Romance: - CATALAN - MOZARABIC - PORTUGUESE - SPANISH - Aingelj� (�ngel Serrano de Le�n) - Lainesco (Eric Christopherson) - Limciela (Jim Taylor) - Montreiano (Barry Garcia) - Mund�s (Josh Brandt-Young) * Gallo-Romance: - FRENCH - OCCITAN - RHAETO-ROMANCE - Arveuneic (Dan Jones) - Ibr�n (Muke Tever) - Narbon�sc (earlier: Roumant) (Christophe Grandsire) - Pacarian (Sander Dieleman) - Talossan (Ben Madison) - Tundrian (G�bor S�ndi) * Celto-Romance: - Breathanach (Geoff Eddy) - Brezhonegh (Frank Georgy V�loczy) - Brithenig (Andrew Smith) [mother of all romlangs!] - Kerno (Padraic Brown) * Germano-Romance: - Germanech (J�rg Rhiemeier) - Jelbazech (Dan Jones) - Latein/Rom�nce (Wayne Chevrier) - Lessinu (Joe Hill) * Italo-Romance: - ITALIAN - LIGURIAN - Romance pidgin (Josh Brandt-Young) * Daco-Romance: - ROMANIAN - VEGLIOT - Dac�n (Elliott Lash) - Neo-Dalmatian/Dalmatesku (Frank George V�loczy) - [unnamed?] (Luca Mangiat) * Slavo-Romance: - Slezan (Jan van Steenbergen) - Slvanjec (Benct Philip Jonsson) - Wenedyk (Jan van Steenbergen) NON-EUROPEAN SUBSTRATE LANGUAGES: * African: - Afer (Leo Caesius) - Carrajena (Adam Walker) [Punic] - li~-rumaninu/ (Patrick Dunn) - Uchunata (Fortunatian) (Marcus Miles) [Canarian Isles] * Hebrew: - Judajca (Steg Belsky) - Linka Rom�nika (Dana Hadar) * Arabic: - Arawyay (Christopher Straughn) [Arabic peninsula] - Rumiya (Isaac Penzev) - [unnamed] (Christophe Grandsire) * Persian: - F�zerok (Michael Greenlee) - Raamiyaan (Benct Philip Jonsson) * Other: - Lashkos (Christopher Wright) [Urdu substrate] - *Lingua-yi-Romaig (?) [Central Asia] - [unnamed?] (Marcus Miles) [Armenian substrate] EARLY SPLIT-OFFS: - SARDINIAN - Jovian (Christian Thalmann) - Meridonian (John Leland) - Reman (Christophe Grandsire) - Roum�n (later Rom�n) (Nik Taylor) [Atlantis] - Thylean (�skar Gudlaugsson) [Iceland] OTHER/UNKNOWN [1]: - Aercant (Michael Bush) - Brandonian (Jordan Kay) - Candabrach (Robert Schikowski) - Daisilingo (Jian Huang) - Dosian (Steve Nickolas) - Latuko (Robert B. Wilson) - Medolian (Dan Jones) - Mesegoika (Alex Katsaros) [Greek-Spanish mix] - Ninfeano (Sabrina ...) - Omnesian (Jordan Kay) - Patrienish (Mike Brooker) - Regimonti (Scotto Hlad) - Romantica (Dan Tohatan) - Romula (Artyom Kouzminykh) - Rubaga (Jeff S. Jones) - Xliponian (Ronald Kyrmse) [1] These are either languages that I couldn't find any info about, languages that I simply haven't seen yet, or languages that are otherwise hard to qualify. Any comments/corrections/input? Jan ===== "If you think you are too small to make a difference, try sleeping in a closed room with a mosquito." ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com