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Re: [romconlang] pseudo-Latin "hinges"



At 16:53 02/02/2004, Muke Tever wrote:
I don't propose it as necessary, or even likely.  But in conlanging one
can always appeal to an occasional bend of the rules when needed to
produce an attractive form [it could be called dialectal, like l for d in
lacrima, lingua, levir].

But of course! :)I was planning to restore the first two in my conlang as <dakruma> and <dingwa> (I actually decided for banish use of <c> for /k/ because it looked "too Real World Latin" :)

I'm not familiar with levir/devir, though checking my refs I see it means "brother-in-law", cognate with Sanskrit devar. So I might as well restore d- there as well :)

> given the Celtic evidence --
> Gaulish *cingeto- and Old Irish cing (gen. cinged) --
> and the many links between Celtic and Italic, it seemed to me that a
> consonant stem in -it- was reasonably appropriate. I'm not sure what a
> plausible alternative might be ...?

Dunno here either.  The only thing I could think of offhand are an
(implausible) root noun |hinx, hingis| or an (unattractive) regular o-stem
|hingus, -Ä«|.

Well, for the moment, perhaps I'll stick with (h)inges, (h)ingitis. It does look better, with the the initial h- dropped, which I suppose ought to happen in the spoken forms eventually anyway.

Actually, one of my plans was to archaize the noun paradigms, perhaps preserving the nominative -ts/-ds endings that were lost in Classical Latin, so I might actually want nom. (h)ingits, gen. (h)ingites .... Very unClassical, but the full stem will just pop out intact on the other side when I get to pseudo-Vulgar-Latin anyway, so no one will miss the contracted nominative ending of proper Classical Latin :)


> I'm not familiar with Sihler -- _New Comparative Grammar of Greek and
> Latin_? -- though it sounds fun :)

That's the book.  The title may be slightly misleading: the only relation
that Greek and Latin have is common descent from Proto-Indo-European,
which is what the bulk of the book is actually about: PIE, from the
perspective of its remains in Greek and Latin.

Ah, very nice. I'll have to see if the local university library has it. I haven't got a Greek-based conlang in my pseudo-Latin's world, so I'm trying to expunge Greek loans when I catch them, but sometimes I try to reconstruct an Italic version from Indo-European. (I banished "miles" and "militaris" because their etymology seems hazy, possibly from Etruscan, but also because it was just more interesting to replace it :)

Cheers,
Carl


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Carl Edlund Anderson
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