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Eric Christopherson writes: >I like it! It is possible for /G/ to become /j/. For that matter, it's >possible for other very faintly-pronounced fricatives to become /j/; I've >heard of /D/ > /j/ before. Also, in Spanish there are some sporadic >instances >of /D/ and maybe /G/ becoming /j/ -- the only one I can think of right >now is >(des)nuyo, but that unfortunately got leveled in favor of the more >regular >desnudo that you hear today. Neat! Well, i see it eventually going towards /Desnuo/, if intervocalic and final /D/ drops out totally from colloquial Spanish speech. Even in my speech if I talk faster it tends to drop out. > >AFMCL, I still haven't found a good solid way to prevent long strings of >vowels resulting from sounds dropping. I could even see advocatu- >becoming >/ao"ao/ :) Hmm, Hawaiian Romancelang, anyone? * I kind of like that though :). Which is why i purposely dropped intervocalic d (/D/). I think this "softening" of the VL makes Montreiano soft. I didnt want to go too soft with things like nasal vowels (which i dont care too much for). >Where does the -y- sound come from, anyway? The y sound (/j/) mainly comes from: - /G/ turning to /j/ as in the previous: advocatu > avogado > avogáo > avoyáo /avo'jao/ - palatalized l /l_j/ becoming /wj/*: caballarius > cavallairo > cavauyairo /kavaw'jajro/ - or simply from its Latin roots: ego > eo > io /jo/ > I would have kept the original rule of i being used for both i and /j/ in all instances, but sometimes it could be mistaken as part of a diphthong. It's mainly aesthetic and functional concerns that goverened that descision :) (As much as I like strings of vowels, reading a bunch together can get confusing). > >* I believe someone once set out to make a language of Romans who somehow >colonized Polynesia, but I don't know any more about it. Yeah, i remember that. There was this huge buzz about it, and then -- nothing. Hmm. It was a cool project too!