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From Katanda to Nasendi to Latenkwa



[I've appended a private message to MorphemeAddict to the end of this
message because I was not able to send it to him directly.]

I liked Katanda a lot but it had two major flaws:

    1. Classifiers could not be used as modifiers unless they were
       changed beyond recognition.

    2. Classifiers could easily be confused with suffixes.  For example,
       in "Nasnosno" (meaning 'rainy'), the first "sno" is a classifier
       while the second one is a suffix.

I tried to fix these problems with Nasendi, but it too was flawed:

    1. It was confusing because the self-segregation rules required
       part-of-speech suffixes even when the default applied.

    2. Classifiers COULD be used as modifiers, but it turns out that
       only a small fraction of them are really useful as modifiers.
       The result was that most modifier meanings would have little
       relationship to the classifier meaning.

    3. The distinction between root-terminators and normal classifiers
       was artificial, confusing, and unjustified because it was only
       done to keep common words relatively short.

The morphology of Latenkwa solves all of the above problems:

    1. Classifiers can be used as modifiers, if needed, by adding 'n'.
       For example, the classifier "to" is used for 'birds', and the
       modifier "ton" has the vague meanings 'blue, sky, flying/airborne,
       high/above/up'.

    2. Classifiers can never be confused with suffixes.

    3. Part-of-speech suffixes are never needed if the default applies.

    4. ALL classifiers are root terminators, and vice-versa.  In other
       words, the distinction no longer exists.

As always, the complete reference manual can be obtained at:

      http://www.eskimo.com/~ram/lexical_semantics.html
  or  http://www.axxess.net/~ram/lexical_semantics.html

and the dictionaries can be obtained at:

      http://www.eskimo.com/~ram/Latenkwa/index.html
  or  http://www.axxess.net/~ram/Latenkwa/index.html


Regards,

Rick Morneau
http://www.eskimo.com/~ram
http://www.axxess.net/~ram




To MorphemeAddict:

I've tried to send an answer to your email message via both eskimo.com
and axxess.net, and AOL bounced both of them with the following error
message:


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Like most people in the US, I do not have a permanent (i.e., non-
residential) IP address.  Almost all ISPs use dynamic IP allocation.  I
suggest that you contact your ISP and have THEM fix the problem, since
you are probably never seeing a lot of legitimate email that is being
sent to you.  Better yet, get a better ISP.


To: MorphemeAddict@hidden.email
>From: Rick Morneau <ram@hidden.email>
Reply-To: ram@hidden.email
Subject: Re: how's it coming?

> 
> Rick,
> How's the morphology rewrite coming along?  Any speculation on when you might 
> have the next version up?
> 
> Steven
> 

I've just about finished.  I should be uploading the new version of the
monograph and dictionaries in a few days.

Rick