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Re: [katanda] oblique args of which verb?

Title: Re: [katanda] oblique args of which verb?
In a message dated 2002-09-15 12:20:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sts@hidden.email writes:
lesson26:
    I'm not eager to cook something in the kitchen during the
      summer because it's too hot.
    Bube caysi mi jamegompa vatsi di meto gasande mendu vakxe
      mamensanta toyuva.
sts:
"vakxe mamensanta toyuva" modifies "bube caysi" and not "jamegompa".
therfore i'd say: "Bube caysi vakxe mamensanta toyuva jamegompa vatsi
di meto gasande mendu."

stefo,
do you mean that that "vakxe" SHOULD refer back to "bube caysi" and not "jamegompa"?  it looks to me like "vakxe" does refer back to "jamegompa", the same way "gasande" does.  i like it close to "gasande mendu".
Stevo

stevo,
i think "vakxe" should refer back to "bube caysi". (in fact, if "bube" is an abreviation for "mabubenza", then "vakxe" should refer back only to "bube". -> "bube vakxe mamensanta toyuva caysi mi jamegompa vatsi di meto gasande mendu." - uh-oh...).
and yes, in the katanda sentence "vakxe" seems to refer back to "jamegompa" the same way "di meto" and "gasande mendu" do. i think this is not the sence of the english sentence. if we like "vakxe mamensanta toyuva" near the other oblique arguments, then the rule/observation is not true that an open/closed adverb modifies the last preceding verb.
i would like a strict katanda language that doesn't allow this ambiguity. maybe we could invent a katanda that is more ambigious for the aim of being _spoken_.
stefo,
sts.