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BestATN@hidden.email wrote:
>
> My point is strictly between the shapes of the words and the corresponding
> notation used to describe them.
> "-nt-" is a CCM meaning P-s. It's not a CCM meaning "mya--nd-", even though
> it is the equivalent of that.
> "-nd-" is a CCM meaning P/F-s.
> Adding the prefix "mya-" to it ["mya--nd-"] demotes the second argument and
> moves the 'F', resulting in P-s [-F]. It means the same as P-s, but the
> notation (i.e., the presence or absence of "[-F]") and actual shape of the
> words ("goynto" vs. "myagoyndo") are different.
> Maybe it seems like I'm making a big deal out of nothing, but to me it seems
> that a perfect correspondence between word shape and notation is being
> muddied, simply because "it means the same".
>
Your point is a valid one, and I corrected the manual to reflect it.
However, it's important to keep in mind that the semantic equivalence
applies ONLY when the focus is demoted and when the root is inherently
focused.
Stephan Schneider <sts@hidden.email> wrote:
>
> at that point, we could easily say
>
> te{focus=kotoy, agent=mi, patient=tumi}
>
Use passive/anti-passive/anti-anti-passive forms and case tags. They're
more verbose, but they do what you want.
>
> wow! i expected an explanation why i'm wrong. this is a strange
> list. ;)
>
My primary interest is in machine translation. Since this list has
nothing to do with MT, and since I have very little time to spare, I
can't answer all of your questions, especially when they are already
answered in the manual. I'm not interested at all in teaching you
Katanda, unless you are seriosuly interested in using Katanda in MT.
I'm not trying to seem unfriendly. I just don't have a choice.
Perhaps other people on this list can discuss Katanda with you and
answer your questions.
Regards,
Rick Morneau
http://www.srv.net/~ram
http://www.eskimo.com/~ram