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On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Invent Yourself wrote: > Sages, please read this file and comment on it. It is in an early stage, > and I'm not completely clear on the conflations of lo'e. > > http://www.thestonecutters.net/xod/lojban/jboske.html I don't believe that the Lojban article system as of now really has what you call substances. This can be seen from the definitions of e.g. "bisli" and "birje". Have you got any references for the "substance" interpretation of loi? -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ There is a great deal of drinking in Japan, unbridled by licensing hours. It forms an important part of semi-official end of work or business negotiations [...], but is also rampant without any such excuse. -- Ballhatchet, Kaiser: Teach Yourself Japanese