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Re: [jboske] grammar & pseudogrammar



la djorden cusku di'e

> > selbri-1;
> >   : selbri-2
> >   | NA # selbri
> > 
> > And the gi'e is out in the bridi-tail rule which contains the selbri.
> > 
> > So the na is deeper in the tree.  (I.e. this is the mi ((na broda)
> > gi'e (broda)) way---the non-nuts way).
> [...]

No doubt about it, that's what the grammar says. But the official
doctrine is that this does not determine semantic structure.
 
> Btw this doesn't kill prenex exporting of naku.
> 
> mi na klama gi'e citka is
> ge mi na klama gi citka,
> ge naku zo'u mi klama gi mi citka
> 
> The two clauses need to get seperate prenexes.

Change {mi} to {lo prenu}:

   lo prenu na klama gi'e citka

This does _not_ expand to:

   ge lo prenu na klama gi lo prenu cu citka

it expands to:

  lo prenu ge na klama gi citka

and if you want:

  lo prenu ge naku klama gi citka

but in any case {na} does not have scope over {lo prenu}, and that
is a problem for the official interpretation, that wants the {na}
in {lo prenu na klama gi citka} to behave like in {lo prenu na klama},
and in the latter to have scope over {lo prenu}.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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