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la djorden cusku di'e
> > They seem analogous to me:
> >
> > simple-tense-modal = [NAhE] [SE] BAI [NAI] [KI]
> > | [NAhE] (time [space]| space [time]) & CAhA [KI]
> > | KI
> > | CUhE
> >
> > PU is the nucleus of 'time' and FAhA of 'space'. So BAI, PU, FAhA,
> > CAhA, KI, CUhE and others can all function as simple-tense-modal,
> [...]
>
> Err, but if you look at that rule there, they aren't analagous.
analogous
adj 1: similar or correspondent in some respects though otherwise dissimilar
They don't have to have identical grammar to be analogous. If they did,
we wouldn't be having this discussion.
> You can't say mi ne'i ka'e pu ca'a klama.
Well, you can, but it breaks as {mi ne'iku ka'eku pu ca'a klama}.
But the point is that there is no founded reason for the restriction.
> Any given tense ends
> with the modal aspect (or the ki) and you need to join them with a
> connective like je.
Right, that's the rule. An unnecessarily arbitrary rule.
> This makes perfect sense if you think about it.
I think about it and it makes no sense to me. What is so senseless
about {pu bai klama}?
> I think you mentioned {mi pu na'eka'e broda}. This doesn't make
> sense either, since either the whole tense should be negated or
> not.
It makes perfect sense: impossible in the past. This is different
from possible in the non-past.
> That sentence could either mean {puku mi na'eka'e broda} or
> {mi na'e pu ka'e broda}.
I don't see how you can get the second meaning from it.
> It could've been allowed if one of those
> meanings were required, I suppose, but it's not obvious which it
> should be, and so I don't see what allowing it gets you (I suppose
> that you could argue that if it has the puku meaning it saves you
> a syllable, though).
No, it is not a matter of saving syllables. It is a question of not
forbidding sensible strings just for the sake of forbidding them.
> (And I think robin's wrong that this is required for LALR(1)).
In which case the restriction is pointless.
(I'm sending this to jboske and also a copy to you Jordan as I'm
not sure you are reading jboske, sorry if you get it twice.)
mu'o mi'e xorxes
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