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The two faces of tu'o (was: Nick on propositionalism &c. (was: Digest Number 134))



On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Robert LeChevalier wrote:

> At 06:34 AM 1/9/03 -0500, John Cowan wrote:
> >Nick Nicholas scripsit:
> >
> > > The BPFK (if I ever get it started) considers what gets added to the
> > > CLL prescription. Founder intent is of interest, but is not decisive,
> > > and is assuredly not canonical. tu'o = mo'ezo'e is not in the CLL
> > > prescription. And I for one don't want it there either.
> >
> >I agree.  This implies fixing the ma'oste.
>
> Why is the ma'oste broken?  There is no need to add to the CLL
> prescription; it merely is silent on the elliptical usages of tu'o as it is
> on multitudinous other things.
>
> Furthermore there is usage history and a clear need for an elliptical
> digit, which tu'o was used for (and mo'ezo'e cannot be used as a digit).
>
> If it is agreed that tu'o cannot overlap both zi'o and zo'e (I remain
> unconvinced of this)


I don't find such an ambiguity acceptable at all.


, then this is a clear case for adding a new cmavo, in
> which case the CLL usage would justify giving tu'o the zi'o interpretation
> (though I don't think it requires a zi'o interpretation to make sense as a
> null operand, it is consistent with same to do so), but the case has to be
> made that tu'o needs that specific a definition, ESPECIALLY in light of the
> fact that I don't think we have any other cmavo that are simple
> abbreviations for a two-cmavo string (which seems like a waste of cmavo to
> me), so it seem clear that there was no INTENT that tu'o mean something so
> simple.


Didn't you recently note that tu'o can grammatically be used in cases
where mo'ezi'o can't go?



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