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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Nick Nicholas wrote: > I now see why And judges loi as redundant to substance/individual: > individuals are things quantified by natural numbers, masses are > things quantified by [0,1]. But collectives are also things > quantified by [0,1]: you have half a collective, even though you also > have 2 ppl out of the collective. And you certainly can have pisu'o a > collective. Let's not lose sight of the fact that a collective is not signfied by any particular quantification, but by the presence of emergent phenomena. It is numerically equivalent to plurality without emergent properties. -- // if (!terrorist) // ignore (); // else collect_data ();