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> le vi kumfa cu zenba le ka xokau prenu ce'u nenri kei > ca ro cacra li ci a li pano a li zeci > This room increases in how many people are in it > each hour by 3, 10 or 73. > >But we do need an intensional if we want "the number" as the >subject: > > lo-KIND te kancu be lei prenu pe le vi kumfa cu zenba > ca ro cacra fo li ci a li pano a li zeci > The number of people in this room increases every hour > by 3, 10, or 73. Why? What is wrong with just converting your first sentence to get what I think is the precisely same translation. le ka xokau prenu ce'u nenri kei cu selzenba le vi kumfa ca ro cacra li ci a li pano a li zeci
Those are indeed equivalent. By "subject" I did not mean "x1". Every argument of a Lojban bridi is equally a subject. Both my version and yours have a property as an argument, not the number. I meant that if we want the number as an argument in the main bridi, then we need to use lo-KIND. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus