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Jordan: > On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 11:08:33PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote: > > I also think that we might be overstating the importance here. How many > > active writers are there? I think that Jorge and I will follow the > > Excellent Solution, no matter what Nick and Jordan say. I like it, and I > > am going to smoke it. Because I have already resigned to my own need to > > learn Lojban from scratch anyway ever since you formalists pulled your > > word-order coup. The CLL didn't reveal that, but "there" it was. So this > > time, I'd like what I learn not to be broken. And if that means a > > "different dialect", tough! > > Well, that just sucks fat balls---such things may kill your chances > of ever being able to have real fluent conversations in the language, > and the chances of the language ever getting bigger than a couple > dozen people > > Dunno what else to say. Obviously what you do is up to you, but I > find it somewhat unfortunate that *every* single issue must result > in mini-schisms where half of lojbanists choose one and the other > half choose another. We need a final authority so that there's > *one* lojban, whatever it is, because this "i'm doing it my way, > screw you guys" crap is just rediculously childish Two lojbans would suffice, I think. One based on minimizing change, on one based on the evolving consensus about what is the best design (unfettered by aversion to change). The nonfundies generally agree with one another, so those who say "screw Standard Lojban, I'm doing things my own way" are in the long run not doing things in a different way from others who say the same thing. --And.