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Re: [jboske] Needed boxes (was: lo'ie != lo'ei)



At 02:23 PM 12/31/02 -0500, Invent Yourself wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Jorge Llambias wrote:
> la lojbab cusku di'e
> > > >mi nitcu fi lenu setca lei vi cukta ce'u poi tanxe (vo'e? depending on
> >what
> > > >it means these days, or maybe ri to avoid the question)
> > > >
> > > >which might back-translate as
> > > >I need that these books be inserted into something which will box them.
> > > >in case I've mangled things unrecognizably.
> > >
> > >And what goes in x2 of nitcu? What do you answer to {go'i ma}?
> >
> >da .a'o, or maybe da da'i(cu'i?)
> >
> >There may in fact be nothing which exists that goes there, but that does
> >not remove your need for it. Why force people to claim a particular value,
> >when I do not know what that value is, or whether it exists.
>
> We don't want to force people to claim a particular value exists,
> of course. That's why da is wrong and that's why I use lo'e
> there.

Does it make sense to want or need things that don't exist? It could be
said that the sentence takes the speaker to an imaginary world where the
item exists; it's hypothetical anyway, so why be fussy about truth values?

That is why I suggested da'i-marking.

lojbab

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