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Nick:
> cu;u la xorxes
>
> [on ka'ai vs. lo'ei]
>
> > Yes, that might be to {lo'ei} as {poi'i} is to {lo}. Would you say
> > {poi'i} is cleaner than {lo}? Maybe, but I'd still want the gadri
> > form
>
> Goes to wiki
>
> Oh. OK, i am catching 3 up months later
>
> Um
>
> What *is* the difference between Jordan's ka'ai and And's poi'i? And
> between ka'ai and seka? And why do I feel I'm running in circles?
ko'a broda = ko'a poi'i ke'a broda
lo broda = lo poi'i ke'a broda
"seka" is a bit up in the air. It was originally suggested as a
mere alternative to poi'i, but Jordan elaborated the idea into
something more complicated and more radical.
> That's one. Two: Jorge, why do you want a gadri? Because the thing
> satisfying the intension is an individual? The thing satisfying the
> lambda expression is, yes; but the search itself takes the lambda
> expression as basic. Now it's my turn to be essentialist: why gadri?
Perhaps because loosely speaking, the 'intensionality' has scope
over the 'gadrow' part of the meaning. So "He's looking for every
Danish mermaid" means "He's looking for the intensional every
mermaid" rather than "He's looking for every intensional mermaid".
That seems like an argument against {ka'ai} and pro gadri (or
gadri+kau as an emergency kludge).
> ----
>
> What is this shit though, I have to ask. One week, we're working out
> lo'e. The next week, because Jorge says "but surely loi is only a
> collective", we're onto masses. This week, because Jordan said "or
> whatever Jorge's intensionals are", we're onto intensionals. And we've
> ended up resolving jack of any of these
Of course the entire gadri system is interrelated. You press one
gadri and they bulge out elsewhere!
> And when I try to say noooo, let's not go there yet, Jorge says "you're
> funny". My fault for answering in the first place, of course..
You didn't *just* say "let's no go there yet" -- you said "these
are my views on the topic, but let's not discuss it further"!
--And.