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Nick: > Jordan's ka'ai is what (I think it was me) was trying to do with jaika > > We *can* say that the quantification default for a leka'ai clause is > su'o no, not su'o pa > > And renders it as > > mi djica leka'ai ce'u tanxe > = Ax, either x is not in le'i ka'ai ce'u tanxe or mi djica x > > and... uh, what *is* wrong with that? I don't know what the le'i is doing there: why is this -veridical +specific? > I mean, let's assume the intensional gadri was basic. We have an > intension (mapping of expression and world to referent), such that, in > World A, unicorns exist, and in World B they don't > > In World A, the denotation of both {lo'ei pavyseljirna} and {lo ka'ai > ce'u pavyseljirna} is non-null > > In World B, they both are null > > .... How is ka'ai worse than lo'ei, then? I don't get it > > Surely not that {le} presupposes the existence of at least one > referent; you just used it to claim it doesn't, and you want a > non-specific version of {le} as your Intensional gadri > > So we want the non-veridicality, and not the specificity. The le does > the non-veridicality, the ka'ai does the non-specificity > > .... I think. Still confused If "intensional gadri + broda" = "ordinary gadri + ka'ai + ce'u broda" -- or preferably "ordinary gadri + ka'ai + ke'a broda" -- then at least it saves having a whole new series of gadri. As for the logical/semantic side of things, I need to mull it over longer. --And.