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la and cusku di'e
> Ok. But it should be a gadri that does not take inner > quantifiers We agree. Is there any way to *prevent* a gadri from taking an inner quantifier?
Not with the current grammar, no.
Or do we just have to say that any inner quantifier is meaningless?
Yes. My argument for {lei} not being Substance is that it takes inner quantifiers in actual use, not so much that it is grammatically allowed to. {lo'e} never takes inner quantifiers in actual usage, because it would also be pretty meaningless, as you pointed out. {loi} doesn't take inner quantifiers in usage either, so in principle we could have loi for Substance and lei for Collective but that breaks other stuff. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf