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Jorge Llambias scripsit: > So you're saying that {loi blosazri} is not just the massification > of {lo'i blosazri}, because there are members of {loi blosazri} > that are not members of {lo'i blosazri}. That is not collective > loi. This is where our understanding of loi differs. There is a conceptual confusion here, but I don't know if it's real or merely terminological. Masses have parts, sets have members; talking of sets entails that the members are distinguishable, whereas talking of masses makes no such assumption. Not every part of lo blosazri is itself lo blosazri, but every such part is included in loi blosazri regardless. This extends to such things as the ship's cook's wooden leg. > That's not how I understand {cpana}. If a cube is cpana > another cube, it is not just the contact surface that is cpana, > it is the whole cube. True, and I would even say that when walking outside I am cpana the Earth dispite the intervention of socks and shoes. But I would not say that I am cpana the Earth when on the 12th floor of a building. -- Knowledge studies others / Wisdom is self-known; John Cowan Muscle masters brothers / Self-mastery is bone; jcowan@hidden.email Content need never borrow / Ambition wanders blind; www.ccil.org/~cowan Vitality cleaves to the marrow / Leaving death behind. --Tao 33 (Bynner)