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de'i li 2002-12-19 ti'u li 13:21:00 la'o zoi. And Rosta .zoi cusku di'e >* le/lo forces a countable interpretation >* the gadri for Substance forces an uncountable interpretation >* IMO, the gadri for Collective forces a countable interpretation another message: >> What I am really saying here though, which nobody is addressing, is >> that we should reserve mass-gadri for collectives. And disambiguate >> collectives from substances, because they are very different things > >I think it is premature. We should first agree on the distinctions >and conflations we want to make. Then we can discuss how to make >them. I haven't read as many of the messages about this as I should have, but anyway, if loi/lei are to be used for collectives, as some have suggested (and I agree), then the default quantifier should be changed to be a natural number, instead of a fraction. It's sensible to talk about two collectives of people, so if 'loi prenu' is a collective of people, then 're loi prenu' should be two collectives of people. mu'o mi'e .adam.