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identity abstraction (was: poi'i, se/te/ve ka)



On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Jordan DeLong wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 09:27:35PM -0000, And Rosta wrote:
> > Jordan:

> > > {me la xod} still doesn't work for what xod wants, anyway, afaict
> >
> > Would {ka ce'u me la xod}? I think it would.
>
> I don't think so.  He wants to replace kau with this, remember.



ka ce'u me la xod works fine. I don't want to replace every use of makau
with this, only in those cases where it's being used to hack an identity
abstractor.

Naturally, if we have the name of the identity-bearer, then getting their
identity is less useful, at least in the canonical cases we're discussing,
where we have a *description* (or a fact) about X, and then want to
discuss X's identity. Without names we have no {me}, and we're back to the
su'u ce'u broda keibe lo kamse'i.



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