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On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 03:30:44AM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Jordan DeLong wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 06:17:36PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote:
> > > On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, And Rosta wrote:
> > > > > > > (Any usage which does is incorrect, and should probably be using
> > > > > > > ti/ta/tu). The difference between da and ko'a is the same as between le
> > > > > > > and lo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See chapter 7;3 to see why ti is unusable
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't see what you're complaining about...
> > > >
> > > > Without checking the book, I am guessing that the objection to your
> > > > use of ti is based on mabla anti-malglico tradition -- in this
> > > > instance, the notion that ti with a textual referent is insufficiently
> > > > deictic.
> > >
> > > Book says explicitly that ti is only used for finger pointables; I need
> > > something abstract.
> >
> > Not sure what you mean by "something abstract". But it's usable
> > for anything which has distance from the speaker (conceptually).
> > The book goes out of its way to say that you don't need to be
> > face-to-face for this to work. All the "finger pointing" stuff is
> > just a metaphor.
>
> "...they cannot refer to things that cannot be pointed at."
"In written text, on the other
hand, the meaning of the ti-series is inherently vague; is the writer to be
taken as pointing to something, and if so, to what? In all cases, what counts
as ``near'' and ``far away'' is relative to the current situation."
--
Jordan DeLong - fracture@hidden.email
lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u
sei la mark. tuen. cusku
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