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RE: poi'i, se/te/ve ka (was Re: [jboske] sane kau?)



Jordan:
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 04:08:25PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, And Rosta wrote:
> [...]
> > > #Actually, xorxes mentions on the wiki that if you accept x2 of ka
> > > #you can just use se ka instead of poi'i for this.  Which is a bit
> > > #nicer imho:
> > >
> > > I agree. I let the poi'i proposal stand because currently poi'i is
> > > baseline conformant and se ka is not 
> 
> It may technically be more baseline compliant, 

A lot of people care a lot whether something is or isn't technically
baseline compliant; I didn't want to just ignore them.

> but I think the ka
> thing is better because it's something ka really should have anyway
> (using ckaji for this is both clumsy and incomplete because a ka
> can have N variables) 

I tend to agree, though it loses us the nice way to do reflexives.

> > > #I would actually like to see the byfy maybe consider modifying the
> > > #place structure of ka so that x2-xn are places for filling in lambda
> > > #variables.  Which variables are filled by which place could be
> > > #specified by subscripts (ce'uxipa is x2, ce'uxire is x3, etc) or
> > > #assumed left to right otherwise 
> > >
> > > I like this idea. Is it on the wiki yet?
> 
> The x2 of ka is I think, but not the xn ka, afaik 

I had already added a note on "se ka", but I've added a page for your
generalized proposal.

--And.