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On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > Your argument makes sense, I think. Nick's argument makes sense, I > think. I don't know if And's makes sense; I understood neither him nor > Jorge when they argued the matter. But this is in part because this whole > squinting metaphor hurts my eyes %^) It seems that if one squints at Americans and only sees one girl, that's e-gadri and not o-gadri. We're avoiding some bloody arguments about the requirements of objectivity; it's been amusing to watch people dance around the minefield with words like "veridical", and others get it flat out wrong by applying strict standards for e-gadri. I will really understand what Nick means about lo'e as soon he relates it to jboske post 511. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.