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Re: [jboske] unresolved debates




la and cusku di'e

1a. meaning of so'V

{so'a} and {so'e} are clearly relative to {ro}, unless
the keywords ("almost all", "most") are totally meaningless.
It seems to me that they are necessarily less than ro, and
also at least ro/2.

I'm not so sure about {so'i}, {so'o} and {so'u}. They all
seem to imply {su'ore}. (I can see "one" being too many or
too few, but I can't see it being many, several or a few.)

I vascillate here, but I would also say that they have to
be less than ro. If many broda are brode, then some broda
are not brode. So they are like so'a and so'e in that they
all entail za'uno and me'iro.

On the other hand, the relative magnitude is independent
of ro. They correspond to a small, a medium and a large
number, but what is small, medium or large depends on the
context and not on the total number. So I can say {so'i
gerku cu nenri le kumfa}, "many dogs are in the room", where
"many" is a large number as far as dogs being in rooms is
concerned, but not as far as the total number of dogs
there are.

Maybe.

1b. ways of expressing fractional quantifiers

Again {piso'a} and {piso'e} don't seem to present problems.
Again I would say that {piso'i}, {piso'o} and {piso'u} refer
to a large/medium/small amount not necessarily in terms
of the whole, but rather large/medium/small in context.

2a. meaning of {lo'e}, {le'e}

We all seemed ok with "myopic singularizer", though we differed
on our capacities to abstract and singularize... :)

2b. meaning of {ta'e}, {na'o}

One of them must refer to density of occurrence in a given
interval. I don't know which one, nor what would the other be.

2c. methods of making statements about typicality

Use of {fadni} is the best way to go here.

3. CAhA, da'i, mu'ei etc.

ka'e = su'omu'ei
ca'a = <this>mu'ei
nu'o = ka'e jenai ca'a
pu'i = ?

4. meaning, if any, of ni+ce'u

My preferrence is {ni} = {ka/du'u sela'u makau}, so ni+ce'u is
well defined. I don't see {ni} as a number as very useful, but
I won't argue too strongly for this.

5. ways of signalling when numbers are and aren't restricted to integers.

I'm not sure in what contexts this would be necessary. There
is always the possibility of stating explicitly "this number
is an integer" using whatever predicate we have for "integer".
What would be an example where the signalling is needed but
being explicit would be too cumbersome?

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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