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Re: [jboske] inner quantifier of e-gadri (was: RE: putative tense scope effects



In a message dated 11/4/2002 2:30:58 AM Central Standard Time, a.rosta@hidden.email writes:
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>though the implicit internal {su'o} does

I overlooked this in my earlier reply to xod. Given that {le broda}
is officially {le su'o broda}, you are right, of course, except in
that IMO the inner quantifier falls within what is nonveridical and
hence not actually part of what the sentence claims.

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Whereas I think they are presuppositional and hence out of the sentence in another way -- but veridical.

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But
if the in-mind thing is an intensionally-defined set, i.e. the
referent of {le'i}, then {le no} is not excluded.
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This is getting close to an almost plausible account of empty references and it might even seem to work if {le'i} is primitive as & postulates.  But the notion of a primitive defined set seems at odds with standard practice and an "intensionally-defined" set is barely intelligible, unless it means "set defined by its property," which is just how sets are usually defined, so not worth mentioning (and, of course, means that the set is not the primitive notion).

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In any
> case, if there aren't any, the claim automatically goes to Untrue.

Give or take the issue of presupposition.
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"Untrue" was picked to take that consideration into account -- especially since I think that is often crucial.