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pycyn@hidden.email scripsit: > ???! More a Platonist than Frege or Zermelo! Or Platon, for that matter, > who clearly distinguishes between arithmetic numbers (natural) and geometric > (real). It is an odd Platonist who thinks that two things that lie under > different universals are nontheless the same. Not at all; in this case I recognize only one universal: numbers. The distinctions between different kinds of numbers are purely functional: I no more think that integers are not reals than I think that primes are not integers. It might be useful to *map* primes and composites differently, say if I were representing primes Neumann-style but composites as sets of primes. But then I wouldn't go around saying that "the prime number 2 is not the integer 2", because I mapped the former to {{}, {{}}, {{{}, {{}}}} and the latter to the set thereof. > That is the sort of thing that > can happen only in the confused world of shadows, not in The Real World. Au contraire. To identify numbers with sets may be useful, bu to say that numbers *are* certain sets is rank {consequenti,operation}alism. -- And through this revolting graveyard of the universe the muffled, maddening beating of drums, and thin, monotonous whine of blasphemous flutes from inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond Time; the detestable pounding and piping whereunto dance slowly, awkwardly, and absurdly the gigantic tenebrous ultimate gods -- the blind, voiceless, mindless gargoyles whose soul is Nyarlathotep. (Lovecraft) John Cowan|jcowan@hidden.email|ccil.org/~cowan