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John: > And Rosta scripsit: > > > {le} isn't right if you're after any box of a certain kind > > The "le" is applied to the kind (I want a +specific boxish variety) > I need a good brivla for "x1 is of variety x2 for purpose x3" "need any box of a certain kind": {nitcu lo'ei cmima be lei'e klesi be lo'i tanxe}. Maybe you can even get away with: {nitcu lo'ei lu'a le'i tanxe} -- I think you can. "There is an apple of a certain kind that I ate": mi citka lo lu'a le'i plise If the nonveridicality bothers you, then change to: mi citka lo lu'a le'i du ku noi plise fa ro lu'a ke'a --And.