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Re: [jboske] carving the lo'e debate into shape (was: RE: My last will and




la djan cusku di'e

> Can the typical lion be captured? And if it can, by whom?

Well, let's suppose that there are lion-capturers. (I have no idea, really.)

If there are captured-lions, I guess there must be lion-capturers
to go with them.

If so, then it would be fair to say that the typical lion-capturer
captures the typical captured lion.  We haven't talked about sentences
with two lo'e instances before, AFAIK.

  no cinfo kavbu cu kavbu lo'e se kavbu cinfo
  ije lo'e cinfo kavbu cu kavbu no se kavbu cinfo
  ije ku'i lo'e cinfo kavbu cu kavbu lo'e se kavbu cinfo

It sounds extremely odd. I'm sure I have used sentences with
two {lo'e}, but not with this meaning.

> >mi nitcu pa le tanxe selcmi poi seltisna lei cukta
>
> Do you mean {pa lu'a le tanxe selcmi}?

Yes.  I wrote "lu'a le'i" and then changed "le'i" to "le", inadvertently
removing "lu'a" as well.

> Also, do you really mean that {lei cukta cu tisna le selcmi}?

Granted that "tisna" might make them too heavy to carry, why not?

The books fill the set. Shouldn't they fill a member of the set?

> I will still have to ask, which set of boxes are you talking
> about? And are you sure there is one and only one member
> of that set such that you need that box and no other? How
> do I identify the one box, once I've somehow managed to
> identify the set?

"lu'a" means "a member, some member".  As long as it belongs to the
right set, I don't care which box I get.

You did write {pa}, so you'd be claiming that there is one and
only one member that will do. Even {su'o} won't help if {lu'a
ko'a} is {su'o da poi cmima ko'a}. The quantifier is outside.
Are you saying it is not, but rather that {lu'a} is something
that buries quantifiers, like {tu'a} or {lo'ei}? That would be
a new ingredient to play with.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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