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In a message dated 10/18/2002 10:56:52 AM Central Daylight Time, xod@hidden.email writes: << The compromise is to realize that a common concept we've been kicking >> Such as? We may not have paid much attention to them (though that is not typically true) but "unintended" suggests that some thought was actually given to these issues, which is, of course, not generally true. By and large, Lojban -- through Loglan -- took things over from SAE when modifying logical notation, without considering how they worked unless and until someone raised a question. So, we got these complex hypothetical projections collapsed into one word, just as they are in English and said , basically, "They work the same way." without considering at all what that way was. "Unnoticed" would be safer, but applies to most features of most words -- as witness the discussions here and on the regular list and on the wiki. << and once we've explored them, we find out that the concept is derived from something >> Who said they did. But they don't have to be off the wall either; they are usually just normally complex ("every word has its own logic" -- but all within the normal bounds of logic). << On the other hand, all this tinkering must be, for me and my purposes, >> That is, after all, the language we are trying to explain. Constructing a new language is a different task and there is a place for it. |