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If {du'u} were abolished, are there any cases where it could not be replaced by {ka'e nu}, assuming an appropriate tweaking of the semantics of sumti places that take a du'u sumti (e.g. "true" being reconstrued as "is actual", is "ca'a nu")? I am beginning to think that the meaning that I generally express by {lo'e du'u} and that others generally express by {le nu} could/should be expressed by {lo'e ka'e nu} (or sometimes {lo(i) ca'a nu}). --And.