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RE: [jboske] ji'i (was: RE: [lojban] Re: Usage deciding




la and cusku di'e

The problem is not so much that the entire number expression
takes so long to say that one forgets how it began, but that
one's short term memory gets overloaded before one can begin
processing the number.

I would think that we process by chunks. So if we hear
{ci pa ki'o ze no no}, we process 31 as one unit, then ki'o,
then 700, and we only have to put together the three things.
We don't have to wait till the end to process the parts.

> But a ji'i in the middle of the word is a
> big nuisance. If you're used to understanding {cirevo} as 324,
> and {cire} as 32, then hearing {cire ji'i vo} you will first
> think it's 32 and then you have to adjust to a special 324.

I don't really understand this. If you hear {ci re vo}, what
stops you parsing {ci re} as 32?

Knowing that numbers come in groups of at most three. Of course if
the 4 takes too long in coming we will parse it as 32. Waiting
for three digits is not so bad, because they are short.

What stops you is surely the
knowledge that you have to wait for the expression to be
complete.

Right. But only at most a three syllable expression. {ji'i}
makes it a five syllable expression, and also a rather more
complex one.

I acknowledge that you have more usage experience
than me, but my own sense is that the one is not more
gardenpathy than the other.

I have almost no experience with usage of numbers, so your
sense is as good as mine. But surely the ji'i expressions
are more complex, whether we are able to handle them or not.

mu'o mi'e xorxes



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