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And Rosta's idea of truth values extending above and below 0 and 1 is just as good as restricting truth values to [0, 1] but including "enough-ness" thresholds "near" 0 and 1. This means mapping a qualitative set upon the quantity scale, which is all "qualitative" really is: words and phrases standing for numbers or number ranges. To establish and vigorously defend a different cmavo for a distinction on the order of Roman numerals vs. Arabics seems ludicrous, particularly in the absence of a rigorous way to specify the quality:quantity map being used. (Hint: yes, I am referring to ni and ka.) In the context of fuzzy logic, tall=1 either means he is the tallest imaginable, or that nobody can dispute that he's tall. This really correlates to an infinite height. However, Kareem may certainly be beyond the "tall enough" limit. Big deal. What is the distinction between "truth values" and "comments"? I have a little problem with ja'a + CAI. It emulates the UI, where a ui covers .5 the truth scale and uinai covers the other. But it's the same ui; here with ja'a and na it's a different cmavo and no "-nai". To improve the emulation we should use "nanai" or "ja'anai" -- or better yet, just stick with the digits God gave us. Another issue with ja'a + CAI is that CAI can already float wherever it likes in a bridi, and could modify the ".i" as well, so including ja'a in there is totally redundant. And Rosta wrote: << Fair enough. I wonder if there will be ambiguous cases, when pi PA values are ambiguous between (a) how much p is happening, and (b) the extent to which p satisfies the threshold criteria for being true at all. For example, {ko'a ja'a xi pi bi melbi} might mean that ko'a's beauty measures .8 in millihelens, or it might mean that ko'a is not quite beautiful but is close to the threshold of beauty. I'd prefer to stick with the latter reading only. >> I hope you don't mean that ja'axipibi melbi is less than melbi! I should think it means the le melbi is .8 on [0, 1] of melbi. -- Before Sept. 11 there was not the present excited talk about a strike on Iraq. There is no evidence of any connection between Iraq and that act of terrorism. Why would that event change the situation? -- Howard Zinn