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pc: > a.rosta@hidden.email writes: > << > > 8. {lo'e} also serves the purposes that tu'o serves, if -- > Controversially -- {lo'e broda cu brode} means something like "If > lo'i broda is conceptualized as singleton, then its membership is > brode". > > 9. When {le'i broda} is singleton, it is useful to signal this, for > the reasons under (5), and {le pa broda} is unattractive for reason > (6b). Controversially, {le'e broda} refers to the membership of > a specific set conceptualized as singleton. > > >> > I take the previous seven comments as essentially agreeing with my > summary and adding justification for the uses spelled out there, so > they seem perfectly fine as practical devices without any > implications about either meaning or metaphysics. > > 8 and 9, however, go far beyond that and without any visible > justification. I don't see anything to suggest that we even have > occasion to view lo'i broda as a singleton or (what it seems is > really meant) as a myopiced individual and certainly not that {lo'e} > is the way to do this. And similarly for {le'e}. That {lo'e} and > {le'e} need some work is obvious from the variety of weird ideas > floating around about them; that this is the right way to go is about > as far from obvious as can be. And that it has anything to do with > {tu'o} -- even by the rather spurious connection suggested here is > more remote still. I'll make a fuller reply in due course. I'm delighted that we agree on points 1-7, & I fully agree that points 8-9 are controversial, do not follow from 1-7, and have not been agreed on. I added them just to complete the picture, for reference purposes. --And.