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Xod:
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, And Rosta wrote:
> > Hope sez:
> > > Rosta, care to elaborate? I agree with the ZAhO point.
> >
> > Xod, I don't mind being referred to as la rosta, but doi rosta
> > transports me back to the macho homophobic boorish days of
> > highschool...
>
> I didn't mean offense, I was just avoiding the confusion of the name
> "And", which has thrown me more than once.
No, I realized you didn't mean offense & were fazed by the potential
for ambiguity as I myself often am. I was just thrown into a
momentary cantanker by whither into my past I had been transported...
> > > >From the Wiki:
> > >
> > > * xoi'a? [PU]: increasing linearly over time
> > > * la papri xoi'a pelxu: The page is yellowing.
> > >
> > > * xoi'e? [PU]: exponential increasing
> > > * do xoi'e lojbo certu: You're learning Lojban at an exponential
> > > rate.
> > >
> > > * Semantically, xoi'a/xoi'e belong in ZAhO, since they deal with
> > > change in truth over time. For example, co'a is change from categorically
> > > false to categorically true. xoi'a/xoi'e deal with rates of increase in
> > > degree of truth. However, there are several possible rates of increase,
> > > and there is also the possibility of decrease, so I think this domain of
> > > meaning requires some more comprehensive proposal than simply these two
> > > cmavo. --And
> >
> > I haven't had time to mull it over enough to come up with a positive
> > proposal, but we can see change as like movement somewhere along the
> > scale ranging from infinitely true to infinitely false. The change
> > can be either from one defined position to another, or change within
> > a region of the scale in one or the other direction. The latter sort
> > of change can be at a constant rate, or an accelerating rate or a
> > decelerating rate. xoi'a/xoi'e pick out change within the True part
> > of the scale ({xoi'V na ku} and {xoi'V ja'a xi pi PA ku} would give
> > change within other parts of the scale) that is constant or accelerating.
>
> I think more along the lines of mathematical functions. How many functions
> are useful for these purposes? In conversation I find myself desiring
> linear & monotonic functions, exponential, and discontinuity, the latter
> could be di'inai.
{ru'i nai}, you mean, I think. Oh, I see that {ru'i nai} gets glossed
as "occasionally", but presumably the basic meaning is just
"discontinuously" (without the sense of *sparse* distribution suggested
by "occasionally").
But these functions you speak of all concern rates of change?