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la xorxes. cusku di'e > fancu1 = fancu4 always, doesn't it? Aside from {du}, is there > any other selbri with this curious behaviour? Actually, I think it's pretty common. Most obviously, the 'mass' gismu: 'gunma' (x1=x2) and 'girzu' (x1=x3, at least with your masses-instead-of-sets usage), and of course all the PAmei's, when you use masses as the second place. Also, I think that 'material' places end up repeating the x1 of the bridi. If the place structure is 'x1 is a widget of material x2', isn't the x2 the same as the x1? In 'ti dilnu le jacygapci', 'ti' and 'le jacygapci' refer to the same thing, don't they? Perhaps you might want to use something like 'ti dilnu lo'e jacygapci', but even so, I don't think you can forbid the form which refers to the actual entity. As for 'fancu', I would use the function in the first place and ignore the fourth, if you want a name your can still use 'fancu cmene' or 'jaime'e fancu'. mu'o mi'e .adam.